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	<title>Comments on: Not a meme! Also not worldbuilding&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: cirellio</title>
		<link>http://5-rings.com/blog/2008/08/not-a-meme-also-not-worldbuilding/#comment-257</link>
		<dc:creator>cirellio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 00:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woo-hoo! Welcome back from the trip, Steph No.1!!! I missed ya a lot.
There&#039;s no shame, here. You could score 100% and I wouldn&#039;t think less of you. I&#039;d easily read a book that had half of these cliches. This list was just pure silliness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class='eg-image' style='float:left; margin-right:35px; display:block;; width:40px' ><img alt='' src='http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/3b0ec3a9c1de69255fbeef7a1b5a3fad?s=40&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2Fuse.perl.org%2Fimages%2Fpix.gif%3Fs%3D40&amp;r=X' class='avatar avatar-40 photo' height='40' width='40' /></span>Woo-hoo! Welcome back from the trip, Steph No.1!!! I missed ya a lot.<br />
There&#8217;s no shame, here. You could score 100% and I wouldn&#8217;t think less of you. I&#8217;d easily read a book that had half of these cliches. This list was just pure silliness.</p>
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		<title>By: aeronwy</title>
		<link>http://5-rings.com/blog/2008/08/not-a-meme-also-not-worldbuilding/#comment-256</link>
		<dc:creator>aeronwy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 23:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol, this was great!  Since I haven&#039;t started writing my novel yet, I can&#039;t truthfully do this list.  But based off notes, the answer&#039;s two.

If were were two do any of the two previous novels I wrote... um... *cough*... never mind.  :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class='eg-image' style='float:left; margin-right:35px; display:block;; width:40px' ><img alt='' src='http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/27c1eacfdabc37e8b21a37c9b77c0800?s=40&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2Fuse.perl.org%2Fimages%2Fpix.gif%3Fs%3D40&amp;r=X' class='avatar avatar-40 photo' height='40' width='40' /></span>lol, this was great!  Since I haven&#8217;t started writing my novel yet, I can&#8217;t truthfully do this list.  But based off notes, the answer&#8217;s two.</p>
<p>If were were two do any of the two previous novels I wrote&#8230; um&#8230; *cough*&#8230; never mind.  :P</p>
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		<title>By: cirellio</title>
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		<dc:creator>cirellio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hm. Time to cheat a little! :)

For 2, since my character is NOT a farmhand and only has ONE mysterious parent, I&#039;m going to have to say it&#039;s only worth threes in a repeating-decimalistic fashion.
(+.333 et al) LOL...

For 9, the characters are more like demi-gods. And they are certainly not &#039;in disguise&#039;. So &#039;No&#039;.

For 27, my prologue isn&#039;t difficult at all to understand after the trilogy is done being read. And technically it&#039;s not impossible to understand it from the get-go if you know a lot about mythology. &#039;No&#039; again.

For 28, there&#039;s no wiggle room here. I get the full point.
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For 38, I misread it! I thought they were talking about the name of the village, not the name of the people. I do actually hate it when fantasy authors name characters stuff like Tim or fsadjf&#039;jslajf. They should have worded it &quot;Do you see &lt;del&gt;nothing&lt;/del&gt; &lt;em&gt;anything&lt;/em&gt; wrong with having two characters &lt;del&gt;from the same small isolated village being&lt;/del&gt; named “Tim Umber” and “Belthusalanthalus al’Grinsok” &lt;em&gt;from the same isolated village&lt;/em&gt;?
I mean, c&#039;mon... I should get a free minus one for that. xD
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For 48, again, there&#039;s no wiggle room.
(+1.00)

For 49, I&#039;m going to say &#039;No&#039; now, because if that character were to divulge information too soon, the result would be: the characters would fail. There&#039;s a great plot reason in place why this character would be very interested in withholding important information.

For 51, I haven&#039;t used the term &#039;mana&#039; yet, so I may as well give myself the benefit of the doubt! :P
Another &#039;No&#039;.

For 52, Another stinkin&#039; misread! I didn&#039;t realize they were talking about &#039;plate&#039; and &#039;mail&#039; being together as a single idea. I guess that&#039;s what I get for carelessly taking this survey while I was busy at work. I never use the term &#039;platemail&#039; in my notes or books ... or anywhere. So &#039;No&#039;.

For 60, since I know the correct weight of swords and have used them before, I&#039;m giving myself the non-point. While most swords weigh 3 to 5 lbs, there are plenty of decorative and two-man swords out there that *do* weigh over 10 lbs. &#039;No&#039; again.

For 64, I&#039;m going to assume we have a competent archer and a clear shot instead of the madness of a battle where an arrow could nick your leg. If that&#039;s the case, the answer is &#039;No&#039;.

For 69, since it specifically states &#039;in your world&#039;, I can ignore the extensive side-notes I have and get away with saying &#039;No&#039;.

For 73, it&#039;s not that nobody thought to take the treasures, it&#039;s that few people actually make it far enough inside of those places before they turn tail and flee. &#039;No&#039;!

All right. New grand total: 2.3333333~. Much better !!!
Who&#039;s the man now, dog???!
PS-&gt; And yush, I was being facetious. ^_^;;;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class='eg-image' style='float:left; margin-right:35px; display:block;; width:40px' ><img alt='' src='http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/3b0ec3a9c1de69255fbeef7a1b5a3fad?s=40&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2Fuse.perl.org%2Fimages%2Fpix.gif%3Fs%3D40&amp;r=X' class='avatar avatar-40 photo' height='40' width='40' /></span>hm. Time to cheat a little! :)</p>
<p>For 2, since my character is NOT a farmhand and only has ONE mysterious parent, I&#8217;m going to have to say it&#8217;s only worth threes in a repeating-decimalistic fashion.<br />
(+.333 et al) LOL&#8230;</p>
<p>For 9, the characters are more like demi-gods. And they are certainly not &#8216;in disguise&#8217;. So &#8216;No&#8217;.</p>
<p>For 27, my prologue isn&#8217;t difficult at all to understand after the trilogy is done being read. And technically it&#8217;s not impossible to understand it from the get-go if you know a lot about mythology. &#8216;No&#8217; again.</p>
<p>For 28, there&#8217;s no wiggle room here. I get the full point.<br />
(+1.00)</p>
<p>For 38, I misread it! I thought they were talking about the name of the village, not the name of the people. I do actually hate it when fantasy authors name characters stuff like Tim or fsadjf&#8217;jslajf. They should have worded it &#8220;Do you see <del>nothing</del> <em>anything</em> wrong with having two characters <del>from the same small isolated village being</del> named “Tim Umber” and “Belthusalanthalus al’Grinsok” <em>from the same isolated village</em>?<br />
I mean, c&#8217;mon&#8230; I should get a free minus one for that. xD<br />
(+0.00)</p>
<p>For 48, again, there&#8217;s no wiggle room.<br />
(+1.00)</p>
<p>For 49, I&#8217;m going to say &#8216;No&#8217; now, because if that character were to divulge information too soon, the result would be: the characters would fail. There&#8217;s a great plot reason in place why this character would be very interested in withholding important information.</p>
<p>For 51, I haven&#8217;t used the term &#8216;mana&#8217; yet, so I may as well give myself the benefit of the doubt! :P<br />
Another &#8216;No&#8217;.</p>
<p>For 52, Another stinkin&#8217; misread! I didn&#8217;t realize they were talking about &#8216;plate&#8217; and &#8216;mail&#8217; being together as a single idea. I guess that&#8217;s what I get for carelessly taking this survey while I was busy at work. I never use the term &#8216;platemail&#8217; in my notes or books &#8230; or anywhere. So &#8216;No&#8217;.</p>
<p>For 60, since I know the correct weight of swords and have used them before, I&#8217;m giving myself the non-point. While most swords weigh 3 to 5 lbs, there are plenty of decorative and two-man swords out there that *do* weigh over 10 lbs. &#8216;No&#8217; again.</p>
<p>For 64, I&#8217;m going to assume we have a competent archer and a clear shot instead of the madness of a battle where an arrow could nick your leg. If that&#8217;s the case, the answer is &#8216;No&#8217;.</p>
<p>For 69, since it specifically states &#8216;in your world&#8217;, I can ignore the extensive side-notes I have and get away with saying &#8216;No&#8217;.</p>
<p>For 73, it&#8217;s not that nobody thought to take the treasures, it&#8217;s that few people actually make it far enough inside of those places before they turn tail and flee. &#8216;No&#8217;!</p>
<p>All right. New grand total: 2.3333333~. Much better !!!<br />
Who&#8217;s the man now, dog???!<br />
PS-&gt; And yush, I was being facetious. ^_^;;;</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Moore</title>
		<link>http://5-rings.com/blog/2008/08/not-a-meme-also-not-worldbuilding/#comment-254</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow. food for thought. most are laughable, but several i&#039;m guilty of. i do agree w/ steph, tho, that there are certain genre expections that must be fulfilled. i&#039;m also thinking that i haven&#039;t read enough of what&#039;s out there because i didn&#039;t realize of of these were so cliche&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class='eg-image' style='float:left; margin-right:35px; display:block;; width:40px' ><a rel='external nofollow' href='http://alex-moore.blogspot.com'><img alt='' src='http://0.gravatar.com/avatar/c7cf852d902157192e25715f8999778c?s=40&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2Fuse.perl.org%2Fimages%2Fpix.gif%3Fs%3D40&amp;r=X' class='avatar avatar-40 photo' height='40' width='40' /></a></span>wow. food for thought. most are laughable, but several i&#8217;m guilty of. i do agree w/ steph, tho, that there are certain genre expections that must be fulfilled. i&#8217;m also thinking that i haven&#8217;t read enough of what&#8217;s out there because i didn&#8217;t realize of of these were so cliche&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Steph</title>
		<link>http://5-rings.com/blog/2008/08/not-a-meme-also-not-worldbuilding/#comment-253</link>
		<dc:creator>Steph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 14:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cirellio! You do not suck. Your book is so detailed and well thought out, no one will even notice a mere 13 things this one person has deemed cliché and bad.

I suspect you&#039;re being facetious, but anyway. Just in case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class='eg-image' style='float:left; margin-right:35px; display:block;; width:40px' ><a rel='external nofollow' href='http://stephvandermeulen.wordpress.com'><img alt='' src='http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/118562c5a36f0dcfba7506fa624ff922?s=40&amp;d=http%3A%2F%2Fuse.perl.org%2Fimages%2Fpix.gif%3Fs%3D40&amp;r=X' class='avatar avatar-40 photo' height='40' width='40' /></a></span>Cirellio! You do not suck. Your book is so detailed and well thought out, no one will even notice a mere 13 things this one person has deemed cliché and bad.</p>
<p>I suspect you&#8217;re being facetious, but anyway. Just in case.</p>
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